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		<title>By: Dialectical Notebooks: What and Why &#171; A Patchwork Life</title>
		<link>http://jackieregales.com/2009/03/27/the-anti-quiz/#comment-2218</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2010 13:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] I knew already that I had strong feelings about the usefulness (or lack) of reading quizzes, but didn&#8217;t have many ideas about how to replace them in my classroom with a task that would [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I knew already that I had strong feelings about the usefulness (or lack) of reading quizzes, but didn&#8217;t have many ideas about how to replace them in my classroom with a task that would [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Blogging Hamlet &#171; A Patchwork Life: writing, teaching, learning more each day</title>
		<link>http://jackieregales.com/2009/03/27/the-anti-quiz/#comment-1699</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 01:30:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] blog has supplanted the dreaded reading quiz for me, and feels like such a more authentic way of really discovering whether or not they are [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: 2009: A Recap &#171; A Patchwork Life: writing, teaching, learning more each day</title>
		<link>http://jackieregales.com/2009/03/27/the-anti-quiz/#comment-1343</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 20:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] March, I came out against quizzes, futzed around with template experiments, and introduced the girls to a galaxy far, far [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: jackie</title>
		<link>http://jackieregales.com/2009/03/27/the-anti-quiz/#comment-526</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 18:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Emmit, I like that idea a lot-- I&#039;ve been pleasantly surprised at the grammar quizzes my students have written for themselves this quarter since I posted this entry.  I&#039;m thinking about ways to revamp that aspect for next year so that I can further advance beyond basic quizzes.

Thanks for stopping by!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Emmit, I like that idea a lot&#8211; I&#8217;ve been pleasantly surprised at the grammar quizzes my students have written for themselves this quarter since I posted this entry.  I&#8217;m thinking about ways to revamp that aspect for next year so that I can further advance beyond basic quizzes.</p>
<p>Thanks for stopping by!</p>
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		<title>By: erosenfeld</title>
		<link>http://jackieregales.com/2009/03/27/the-anti-quiz/#comment-521</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 16:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I lied. Sometime I use quizzes: I&#039;ll have all the kids write a question and answer on a notecard, collect them, and then ask five. Of course, I stick my own notecard in, too. This forces review (in writing the question) and helps me gauge understanding, based on the sorts of questions they write, although I may give them simple directions like, &quot;Not a nit-picky question but one you&#039;ll know if you read recently and had good understanding of the chapter.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I lied. Sometime I use quizzes: I&#8217;ll have all the kids write a question and answer on a notecard, collect them, and then ask five. Of course, I stick my own notecard in, too. This forces review (in writing the question) and helps me gauge understanding, based on the sorts of questions they write, although I may give them simple directions like, &#8220;Not a nit-picky question but one you&#8217;ll know if you read recently and had good understanding of the chapter.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: jackie</title>
		<link>http://jackieregales.com/2009/03/27/the-anti-quiz/#comment-461</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 20:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, exactly-- I want to know their involvement, their needs, and to see what is engaging them and what is leaving them cold.  I want them to also have a sense of their own progress or difficulties.  I want periodic assessments, and I want to be instilling study habits and ways to prepare for assessments that will serve them well long after they are in my class.

I still have an icky feeling about the incentive part-- still feels too much like the carrot and stick way of encouraging anyone to learn anything.  I like the idea of creating a way for them to show what they know, but for me, that usually ends up to a creative project or full-fledged essay.  I guess I need to think more about how a shorter assignment could do that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, exactly&#8211; I want to know their involvement, their needs, and to see what is engaging them and what is leaving them cold.  I want them to also have a sense of their own progress or difficulties.  I want periodic assessments, and I want to be instilling study habits and ways to prepare for assessments that will serve them well long after they are in my class.</p>
<p>I still have an icky feeling about the incentive part&#8211; still feels too much like the carrot and stick way of encouraging anyone to learn anything.  I like the idea of creating a way for them to show what they know, but for me, that usually ends up to a creative project or full-fledged essay.  I guess I need to think more about how a shorter assignment could do that.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 21:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, excuse the poor sentence structure in the 1st paragraph!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, excuse the poor sentence structure in the 1st paragraph!</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 21:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve been sitting on this post and thinking about it.  So I must admit I hated quizzes when I was a student.  I too found them less than useful.  But as a teacher I think I see their usefulness.  FYI, I don&#039;t quiz my students, but they are in grad school so I am less concerned with whether or not they are reading.

I think their usefulness is multifaceted:

1.  It does provide an incentive to read.  Weekly quizzes help keep students paying attention.

2.  It helps the student get an opportunity to see how much understanding they have of the material.  See: your husband&#039;s complaint about law school&#039;s 1 final exam only.

3.  It helps you, as a teacher, identify who needs more assistance or attention.  

I think however, you should not weight the quizzes heavily in their final grade...or at all. Just don&#039;t tell them that ahead of  time.

As far as your concern about studying for the quiz...we see that type of problem in standardized testing all the time (The Wire) and you ask if it is the quiz&#039;s fault.  Yes and no.  If they are supposed to know it, then they should know it, quiz or no quiz.  But, I think the quiz oftentimes does lead to cramming and panicky study habits because the quiz itself is faulty.  Too often quizzes and tests are testing what students don&#039;t know rather than what they do know.  I think perhaps English class does not lend itself to objective tests such as multiple choice, and perhaps (I know it is more labor intensive) much more useful are quizzes that let them write about what they think about the reading in a directed way.  It doesn&#039;t have to be long, 2-3 sentences, 3-4 questions and that way they can benefit from the periodic assessment aspect of the quiz and you can get a read on their involvement in the class and particular needs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been sitting on this post and thinking about it.  So I must admit I hated quizzes when I was a student.  I too found them less than useful.  But as a teacher I think I see their usefulness.  FYI, I don&#8217;t quiz my students, but they are in grad school so I am less concerned with whether or not they are reading.</p>
<p>I think their usefulness is multifaceted:</p>
<p>1.  It does provide an incentive to read.  Weekly quizzes help keep students paying attention.</p>
<p>2.  It helps the student get an opportunity to see how much understanding they have of the material.  See: your husband&#8217;s complaint about law school&#8217;s 1 final exam only.</p>
<p>3.  It helps you, as a teacher, identify who needs more assistance or attention.  </p>
<p>I think however, you should not weight the quizzes heavily in their final grade&#8230;or at all. Just don&#8217;t tell them that ahead of  time.</p>
<p>As far as your concern about studying for the quiz&#8230;we see that type of problem in standardized testing all the time (The Wire) and you ask if it is the quiz&#8217;s fault.  Yes and no.  If they are supposed to know it, then they should know it, quiz or no quiz.  But, I think the quiz oftentimes does lead to cramming and panicky study habits because the quiz itself is faulty.  Too often quizzes and tests are testing what students don&#8217;t know rather than what they do know.  I think perhaps English class does not lend itself to objective tests such as multiple choice, and perhaps (I know it is more labor intensive) much more useful are quizzes that let them write about what they think about the reading in a directed way.  It doesn&#8217;t have to be long, 2-3 sentences, 3-4 questions and that way they can benefit from the periodic assessment aspect of the quiz and you can get a read on their involvement in the class and particular needs.</p>
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		<title>By: jackie</title>
		<link>http://jackieregales.com/2009/03/27/the-anti-quiz/#comment-423</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 01:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Amy, you&#039;re absolutely right-- when I say &quot;quiz,&quot; I mean quick, traditional, short-answer verifiable quizzes.  Often English teaches use them as reading comprehension checks, for plot points, character names, etc.

I think students should have a sense of how they are progressing before they get hit with a major assessment-- I just don&#039;t think those kinds of quizzes have to be the only way that happens.  Again, this is based on my own experience teaching humanities courses.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amy, you&#8217;re absolutely right&#8211; when I say &#8220;quiz,&#8221; I mean quick, traditional, short-answer verifiable quizzes.  Often English teaches use them as reading comprehension checks, for plot points, character names, etc.</p>
<p>I think students should have a sense of how they are progressing before they get hit with a major assessment&#8211; I just don&#8217;t think those kinds of quizzes have to be the only way that happens.  Again, this is based on my own experience teaching humanities courses.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy Chess</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 01:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the usefulness of a quiz is determined by the type of material that is being learned.  I also think different types of quizzes accomplish different things---I&#039;ve known other instructors who gave quizzes which were much more like short in-class essays (with real pedagogical weight behind them) rather than the traditional, quick, five-question quizzes that have straightforward answers based on objectively-verifiable facts.  

I have taught 2 years of upper-division psychology courses at a large state university, and although I personally have never assigned quizzes, I can see how they may be useful (and actually, now that I am thinking about this, I may consider adopting them in the future).

The primary reason I would assign a quiz would be to break up large, detail-intensive units into manageable chunks.  As an example of this, the first time I taught Psychopharm, we did a very dense unit on neurotransmitters---there&#039;s tons of information, and after several weeks, the details can become muddled.  I had students suggest that I break that unit into smaller sections.  They weren&#039;t specific about what they thought would work better, but I think what they had in mind may have been akin to the idea of having smaller quizzes to assess their progress before having the large exam.  In courses where the material builds incrementally such that each successive concept depends upon having mastered the previous concept, I think a quiz is useful.  I think this strategy may be more useful for science courses, but I could be wrong.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the usefulness of a quiz is determined by the type of material that is being learned.  I also think different types of quizzes accomplish different things&#8212;I&#8217;ve known other instructors who gave quizzes which were much more like short in-class essays (with real pedagogical weight behind them) rather than the traditional, quick, five-question quizzes that have straightforward answers based on objectively-verifiable facts.  </p>
<p>I have taught 2 years of upper-division psychology courses at a large state university, and although I personally have never assigned quizzes, I can see how they may be useful (and actually, now that I am thinking about this, I may consider adopting them in the future).</p>
<p>The primary reason I would assign a quiz would be to break up large, detail-intensive units into manageable chunks.  As an example of this, the first time I taught Psychopharm, we did a very dense unit on neurotransmitters&#8212;there&#8217;s tons of information, and after several weeks, the details can become muddled.  I had students suggest that I break that unit into smaller sections.  They weren&#8217;t specific about what they thought would work better, but I think what they had in mind may have been akin to the idea of having smaller quizzes to assess their progress before having the large exam.  In courses where the material builds incrementally such that each successive concept depends upon having mastered the previous concept, I think a quiz is useful.  I think this strategy may be more useful for science courses, but I could be wrong.</p>
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